@DeistPaladin Gen 3 … @DeistPaladin Gen 3:16 Being subordinate is the result of the curse on Women.But this was not the Ideal state for them.
If you could ask a woman of antiquity how she felt being a sex slave given her father sold her according to the custom.She might find the question absurd.It was accepted. Tamar 2 Samuel 13:Before being raped suggested MARRIAGE.
To paraphrase Socrates”Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?
@DeistPaladin No, … @DeistPaladin No,What Im saying is that the ancients didnt see themselves as victims as our modern western outlook may suggest.By our modern western standards all women where raped at that period in history,Because none of them chose or had freedom.
As far as morality is concern I don’t share the typical view of Christians,I believe GOD can not hold himself to certain morals laws set for man for example (Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal)GOD can not be held to this because all creation is his.
@rocstdybeebop I’m … @rocstdybeebop I’m sorry, I missed this earlier. Let me be clear: sex with a slave is rape. Period.
Rape is defined as sex without one person’s consent. If she has no choice in the matter, it’s rape. This is not my opinion. This is the very definition of the term. The slave has no choice, therefore sex with a slave is rape.
You can slap the label “marriage” on it to try to sanitize it but it’s still rape. By definition. Q.E.D.
@rocstdybeebop So … @rocstdybeebop So are you arguing that rape might be OK in certain cultural circumstances? That such a no-brainer moral dilemma is actually a matter of opinion based on cultural norms? Furthermore, are you suggesting that God was unable to outlaw rape because human society was somehow not “ready” for such a commandment?
Does God make the rules or not?
@TheOpenminded12460 … @TheOpenminded12460 Remember No woman was free too choose they where sold or betroth,Endogamy,Polygyny,Polygamy,Exogamy ect was law for some cultures none of those women voted on these matters so that would also be consider rape from a modern perspective.There were no opportunities or education for them either,Study history brother and that was the costume before GOD gave his commandments.We tend to read the verses through a modern western outlook and thats part of the problem.
@rocstdybeebop @ … @rocstdybeebop @THeOpenMinded12460 Moses in Numbers 31 I believe said that you can take women and daughters for yourselves, but kill EVERY MALE!
How is that NOT rape?!
@DeistPaladin
I … @DeistPaladin
I ment is punishable by Death.The Lack of characters in the chat box limits us.
Deuteronomy 22:22-28
You wil run into problems depending on the translation But even adultery is punishable by death.the NIV translates as rape comes from two Hebrew words, taphas and shakab which depending on context means voluntary or forced.EX=Numbers 5:11-13 NKJV, Here (shakab) refers to a voluntary sexual act.
Much debate is over poor translations the Original Languages Semantics Hstry & cntxt
@rocstdybeebop … @rocstdybeebop Certain “niceties” apply and perhaps that was considered progressive for the time but I’m not impressed. You can slap the label “married” on it but rape is still rape and sex slavery is still sex slavery.
Kindly cite chapter and verse where rape is “clearly” a capital punishment. Unless you consider fine and being forced to marry her a “capital” punishment.
Deuteronomy 21:10- … Deuteronomy 21:10-14
This passage does Not endorse rape.Read it in context,In this passage its speaking of MARRYING the woman and she is not forced into sex by the fact IN VERSE 13 she is given a FULL MONTH to mourn before CONSUMMATING and she is NOT to be SOLD.
Consider History and Pagan Cultures for a moment Women did not have rights or the ability to provide for themselves in those days and polygamy was common.Rape is clearly a capital punishment in the bible.
God is good. His … God is good. His laws help men out. Why do you find His laws repugnant? Because your a pro-women’s rights feminist (similar to techies like Divverent of Xonotic…. and most of the people in that vid gaming community, and almost all linux sysadmins (excluding some of the actual linux and security programmers who don’t take a side). –MikeeUSA– (I know you have a google alert on me divverent).
Girls should be married off at puberty and obey their husband in all things.
@RyeGuyfx You ARE … @RyeGuyfx You ARE IGNORING SCIENCE! You say that psychologists say weed is toxic and causes brain damage? Are you kidding? You didn’t even attempt to verify anything you said with science? You just spouted off your bullshit opinions that have been pounded into your sheep self. USE THE FACTS! MJ is 100% non-toxic, has been shown to kill brain cancer cells and spur NEUROGENESIS or the creation of healthy brain cells. Do some research you fuck! Just read the god damned literature!
@RyeGuyfx I knew … @RyeGuyfx I knew I’d find your dumb again. You posted this on my wall “I do know what i am talking about and i am not ignoring :”scientific facts”. Unless of course psychologists are lying when THEY say weed is toxic and causes brain damage. Look i have worked with state institutions for the mentally ill. We deal with those kinds of people everyday- People who are drug addicts and weed is a drug that is on the list. LSD, Speed, Cocaine, Xtacy, Weed, etc. That is how they got ill!!” ——>
@RyeGuyfx ” … @RyeGuyfx “Yeeaa.Riiigghht. tell that to Israel who for generations and over 1300 years have written and recorded their history in their Scriptures.”
If you think there is any historical, archeological, or genetic evidence, or any evidence what so ever, so show the bibles have actual fact in them be my guest and present them. But every study, every dig, every scrap of evidence we have shows that it’s fiction. So go ahead, if you can find evidence be my guest and present it.
@RyeGuyfx just a … @RyeGuyfx just a comment……if you mention this to a muslim cleric he will simply correct you…The holy texts were written at a time when human knowledge and understanding were limited..the creation was explained as that the world was created in 7 days as humans could not possibly in that era comprehend 700 million days for example..the Muslim Quran talks about the big bang theory and in 700 million or more days/years God put his plan to action..u may call it evolution..Gods given us a brain.
@RyeGuyfx The facts … @RyeGuyfx The facts don’t lie, the bible’s are fiction, and nothing but fiction. You’ve based your life an a lie, a sad pathetic and obvious lie. It’s not too late for you. Start living a good life based on reason rather than a bigoted one based on faith.
@humanistheart … @humanistheart Yeeaa.Riiigghht. tell that to Israel who for generations and over 1300 years have written and recorded their history in their Scriptures. You think a whole nation is duped on fictional fairy tales? Christians and Jews can tolerate people who tell them ‘there is no God” in a humane fashion, because they know who is lost. I would dare you to go to Muslim Leaders and tell them the same thing. I mean real muslims. Just see where you end up.
@humanistheart well … @humanistheart well i hope you didn’t mean the Bible is not a key place to be looking for wisdom. That shows me you haven’t read Proverbs at all. King Solomon was the wisest man in Israel. It says God gave him the Wisdom so it was NOT from Satan. It also says ask God for HIS wisdom and he will give it to you. thanks that is all.
@RyeGuyfx That’s … @RyeGuyfx That’s just a belief, what about don’t come back until you have something intellegent to say did you not understand? And by the way, an old collection of even older books, in which the central character ‘god’ allows, encourages, or even commands genocide, infanticide, rape, murder, child and women abuse, etc etc, is not a key place to be looking for wisdom. Not to mention it lists bats as birds, claims incests walk on 4 legs, and mentions many events that never actually occurred.
@humanistheart well … @humanistheart well that comment was just for you. now, you want something intelligent and wise. Did you know there are TWO kinds of Wisdom in this world that’s pointed out in the Bible?? It says there is God’s Wisdom, but also Satan’s wisdom-or the “worlds” wisdom. “the foolishness of God is wiser than man” that verse is in Corinthians. look it up.
@RyeGuyfx Lol, … @RyeGuyfx Lol, that’s just pathetic. Come back when you have something intelligent to say… oh wait, you never will, so just don’t come back loser.
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@DeistPaladin God …
@DeistPaladin God forgot to iclude rape in the bible lol sounds human to me.
@DeistPaladin Gen 3 …
@DeistPaladin Gen 3:16 Being subordinate is the result of the curse on Women.But this was not the Ideal state for them.
If you could ask a woman of antiquity how she felt being a sex slave given her father sold her according to the custom.She might find the question absurd.It was accepted. Tamar 2 Samuel 13:Before being raped suggested MARRIAGE.
To paraphrase Socrates”Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?
@rocstdybeebop So …
@rocstdybeebop So God couldn’t outlaw rape or command gender equality? Does God make the rules or not?
@DeistPaladin No, …
@DeistPaladin No,What Im saying is that the ancients didnt see themselves as victims as our modern western outlook may suggest.By our modern western standards all women where raped at that period in history,Because none of them chose or had freedom.
As far as morality is concern I don’t share the typical view of Christians,I believe GOD can not hold himself to certain morals laws set for man for example (Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal)GOD can not be held to this because all creation is his.
@rocstdybeebop I’m …
@rocstdybeebop I’m sorry, I missed this earlier. Let me be clear: sex with a slave is rape. Period.
Rape is defined as sex without one person’s consent. If she has no choice in the matter, it’s rape. This is not my opinion. This is the very definition of the term. The slave has no choice, therefore sex with a slave is rape.
You can slap the label “marriage” on it to try to sanitize it but it’s still rape. By definition. Q.E.D.
@rocstdybeebop So …
@rocstdybeebop So are you arguing that rape might be OK in certain cultural circumstances? That such a no-brainer moral dilemma is actually a matter of opinion based on cultural norms? Furthermore, are you suggesting that God was unable to outlaw rape because human society was somehow not “ready” for such a commandment?
Does God make the rules or not?
@TheOpenminded12460 …
@TheOpenminded12460 Remember No woman was free too choose they where sold or betroth,Endogamy,Polygyny,Polygamy,Exogamy ect was law for some cultures none of those women voted on these matters so that would also be consider rape from a modern perspective.There were no opportunities or education for them either,Study history brother and that was the costume before GOD gave his commandments.We tend to read the verses through a modern western outlook and thats part of the problem.
@rocstdybeebop @ …
@rocstdybeebop @THeOpenMinded12460 Moses in Numbers 31 I believe said that you can take women and daughters for yourselves, but kill EVERY MALE!
How is that NOT rape?!
@DeistPaladin
I …
@DeistPaladin
I ment is punishable by Death.The Lack of characters in the chat box limits us.
Deuteronomy 22:22-28
You wil run into problems depending on the translation But even adultery is punishable by death.the NIV translates as rape comes from two Hebrew words, taphas and shakab which depending on context means voluntary or forced.EX=Numbers 5:11-13 NKJV, Here (shakab) refers to a voluntary sexual act.
Much debate is over poor translations the Original Languages Semantics Hstry & cntxt
@rocstdybeebop …
@rocstdybeebop Certain “niceties” apply and perhaps that was considered progressive for the time but I’m not impressed. You can slap the label “married” on it but rape is still rape and sex slavery is still sex slavery.
Kindly cite chapter and verse where rape is “clearly” a capital punishment. Unless you consider fine and being forced to marry her a “capital” punishment.
Deuteronomy 21:10- …
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
This passage does Not endorse rape.Read it in context,In this passage its speaking of MARRYING the woman and she is not forced into sex by the fact IN VERSE 13 she is given a FULL MONTH to mourn before CONSUMMATING and she is NOT to be SOLD.
Consider History and Pagan Cultures for a moment Women did not have rights or the ability to provide for themselves in those days and polygamy was common.Rape is clearly a capital punishment in the bible.
God is good. His …
God is good. His laws help men out. Why do you find His laws repugnant? Because your a pro-women’s rights feminist (similar to techies like Divverent of Xonotic…. and most of the people in that vid gaming community, and almost all linux sysadmins (excluding some of the actual linux and security programmers who don’t take a side). –MikeeUSA– (I know you have a google alert on me divverent).
Girls should be married off at puberty and obey their husband in all things.
@RyeGuyfx You ARE …
@RyeGuyfx You ARE IGNORING SCIENCE! You say that psychologists say weed is toxic and causes brain damage? Are you kidding? You didn’t even attempt to verify anything you said with science? You just spouted off your bullshit opinions that have been pounded into your sheep self. USE THE FACTS! MJ is 100% non-toxic, has been shown to kill brain cancer cells and spur NEUROGENESIS or the creation of healthy brain cells. Do some research you fuck! Just read the god damned literature!
@RyeGuyfx I knew …
@RyeGuyfx I knew I’d find your dumb again. You posted this on my wall “I do know what i am talking about and i am not ignoring :”scientific facts”. Unless of course psychologists are lying when THEY say weed is toxic and causes brain damage. Look i have worked with state institutions for the mentally ill. We deal with those kinds of people everyday- People who are drug addicts and weed is a drug that is on the list. LSD, Speed, Cocaine, Xtacy, Weed, etc. That is how they got ill!!” ——>
@theDracoIX … did …
@theDracoIX … did you just say that rape is a-ok?
@RyeGuyfx ” …
@RyeGuyfx “Yeeaa.Riiigghht. tell that to Israel who for generations and over 1300 years have written and recorded their history in their Scriptures.”
If you think there is any historical, archeological, or genetic evidence, or any evidence what so ever, so show the bibles have actual fact in them be my guest and present them. But every study, every dig, every scrap of evidence we have shows that it’s fiction. So go ahead, if you can find evidence be my guest and present it.
@RyeGuyfx just a …
@RyeGuyfx just a comment……if you mention this to a muslim cleric he will simply correct you…The holy texts were written at a time when human knowledge and understanding were limited..the creation was explained as that the world was created in 7 days as humans could not possibly in that era comprehend 700 million days for example..the Muslim Quran talks about the big bang theory and in 700 million or more days/years God put his plan to action..u may call it evolution..Gods given us a brain.
@RyeGuyfx The facts …
@RyeGuyfx The facts don’t lie, the bible’s are fiction, and nothing but fiction. You’ve based your life an a lie, a sad pathetic and obvious lie. It’s not too late for you. Start living a good life based on reason rather than a bigoted one based on faith.
@humanistheart …
@humanistheart Yeeaa.Riiigghht. tell that to Israel who for generations and over 1300 years have written and recorded their history in their Scriptures. You think a whole nation is duped on fictional fairy tales? Christians and Jews can tolerate people who tell them ‘there is no God” in a humane fashion, because they know who is lost. I would dare you to go to Muslim Leaders and tell them the same thing. I mean real muslims. Just see where you end up.
Was worth watching …
Was worth watching just to discover BrickTestament!! lol
Good vid DeistPaladin, only just stumbled across you…subscribed.
@RyeGuyfx King …
@RyeGuyfx King solomon is just a story. It’s fiction, like the rest of the bible.
@humanistheart well …
@humanistheart well i hope you didn’t mean the Bible is not a key place to be looking for wisdom. That shows me you haven’t read Proverbs at all. King Solomon was the wisest man in Israel. It says God gave him the Wisdom so it was NOT from Satan. It also says ask God for HIS wisdom and he will give it to you. thanks that is all.
@RyeGuyfx That’s …
@RyeGuyfx That’s just a belief, what about don’t come back until you have something intellegent to say did you not understand? And by the way, an old collection of even older books, in which the central character ‘god’ allows, encourages, or even commands genocide, infanticide, rape, murder, child and women abuse, etc etc, is not a key place to be looking for wisdom. Not to mention it lists bats as birds, claims incests walk on 4 legs, and mentions many events that never actually occurred.
@humanistheart well …
@humanistheart well that comment was just for you. now, you want something intelligent and wise. Did you know there are TWO kinds of Wisdom in this world that’s pointed out in the Bible?? It says there is God’s Wisdom, but also Satan’s wisdom-or the “worlds” wisdom. “the foolishness of God is wiser than man” that verse is in Corinthians. look it up.
@RyeGuyfx Lol, …
@RyeGuyfx Lol, that’s just pathetic. Come back when you have something intelligent to say… oh wait, you never will, so just don’t come back loser.