if you whant to … if you whant to know if jews belive the world was flat you have to look in the talmud it explains the world is round thats funny that it would be there because the talmud (oral laws)
I disagree with the … I disagree with the isaiaih verse. God was simply saying that he will collect his people from the lands where they’ve been dispersed to. He then goes on to say the four corners of the earth as a reference to the fact that his people were coming from those directions. Therefore, i would disagree that it’s an indicator the earth was flat according to the Bible, not that i’m a believer or anything.
QUOTE: “I’ve … QUOTE: “I’ve already agreed it’s not a book of science.”
Then you also agree it’s not the Word. Or did you not read my response?
QUOTE: “ARE you
or ARE you NOT attacking FUNDAMENTALIST Christianity and deceitfully MISREPRESENTING all Christianity in so doing?”
I’m attacking the Bible. This is the heart of Christianity. Fundamentalist Christianity is pure Christianity. Moderate Christianity is watered down by modernity, science and imagination.
QUOTE: “I have … QUOTE: “I have already addressed that”. Would you draw my attention to precisely where “that” was addressed? Other wise, I’ll have no rational option than to conclude I’m not engaged in an argument but instead a fight wherein it was never your intent to arrive at a reasonable conclusion by means of the exchange of ideas. You skirt the issue.
Answer me- please: ARE you
or ARE you NOT attacking FUNDAMENTALIST Christianity and deceitfully MISREPRESENTING all Christianity in so doing?
And if Yahweh was … And if Yahweh was on their side, why did they get so many things wrong? If a god actually supported them shouldn’t they have knowledge that they could not have gained?
Or they did not … Or they did not exist for century’s. There mythology’s was stolen from other older cultures and they just tacked monotheism onto them. Or they didn’t tack monotheism onto it as if you actually read the old testament you’d find that is in fact polytheistic mythology’s, monotheism could have came about late on the scene.
Btw, I have 7 … Btw, I have 7 children, a job that consumes about 80 hours a week and I’m not a half-baked Christian apologist. I’m not even 1/8th baked–I have no credentials and a secondary school diploma (barely). I have to go to bed. My lack of response to anything you write is an answer to natures call, not retreat. It is the duty of Christians to defend the Faith. I’ve done that tonight and it’s enough for the time being.
Quote: ” The Word … Quote: ” The Word of God WOULD be a book of science, rationality, morality and spirituality. The Bible is none of the above.”
I’ve already agreed it’s not a book of science. You’re reading what I post, are you comprehending what I write?
When you mention and pretend to tackle the other topics listed you fail to address my primary contention: That being–you presume, rashly, that Christianity is expressed solely through fundamentalist principles. Can you not address that first, without “horns?
QUOTE: “The Bible … QUOTE: “The Bible is the Word of God and is not a book of science or geography or many other things you impose.”
The Word of God WOULD be a book of science, rationality, morality and spirituality. The Bible is none of the above.
QUOTE: “A half-baked Christian apologist would pulverize your arguments in an open forum”
All are welcome to post on the forum on the site I’ve linked to. Response videos are also welcome. Any challenges on any other forum I will not shy away from.
Did I suggest a ” … Did I suggest a “sorda kinda” option?
There’s another option. The Bible is the Word of God and is not a book of science or geography or many other things you impose. It was intended to be read by Christians. I presume you’re a Theist. Go ahead and read the bible and come to all manner of false conclusions. That is, after all, what you desire.
A half-baked Christian apologist would pulverize your arguments in an open forum
“Skeptic Seminary”? May I suggest rather: Skeptic Kindergarten.
You’re not undoing … You’re not undoing Christianity. You’re attacking the principles of fundamentalist Christianity who insist on literal interpretation of all scripture-which is ridiculous. The R. C. Church can accept the possibility that Evolution is true and it changes nothing about their theology or dogma. Fund. Chr. has existed for about 120 years and received infamous repute at the Scopes Monkey Trial. You pretend to attack Christianity but instead attack something that has little history and no credibility.
The ancient Jews … The ancient Jews were lousy astronomers too, They used a lunar based calender. They avoided travel on the Great Sea, unlike her neighbours and for this reason they were no catographers and had little idea of the larger world. They had no aspiration to great architecture either. In fact, their culture was relatively dry, their population always insignificant.
How then do you account for their presence on the world stage for centuries? I reason Gods covenant, His Law, the Prophets and Christ.
I just needed to … I just needed to hear the verse once to know for a fact that they did believe it was flat, because it merely states that the earth atmosphere spread as a tent, hence a circle upon a flat surface.
This is true … This is true ancient Sumerians had drawings that show the planets and earth as round based on the observation of the moon and sun , they are both round so i guess we are too , not hard to understand that, even back then.
The idea that the … The idea that the people in the 1st century and before all thought the earth was flat is wrong. People have known the earth is a sphere since before the bible was written. The ancient Egyptians even had an estimation of the size of the earth that was pretty accurate. The fact that the bible gets it o wrong shows how ignorant the writers of the bible were even for that time.
kushy job, lol, … kushy job, lol, that was good, i love your dry sense of humor, much love and respect. thanks for being a great resourse for the youtube freethinkers.
I noticed that … I noticed that there was a country missing from the map of the four corners. Hint: It’s the country that is surrounded by all of the other lands that where described.
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talmud is as old as …
talmud is as old as the torha
if you whant to …
if you whant to know if jews belive the world was flat you have to look in the talmud it explains the world is round thats funny that it would be there because the talmud (oral laws)
I disagree with the …
I disagree with the isaiaih verse. God was simply saying that he will collect his people from the lands where they’ve been dispersed to. He then goes on to say the four corners of the earth as a reference to the fact that his people were coming from those directions. Therefore, i would disagree that it’s an indicator the earth was flat according to the Bible, not that i’m a believer or anything.
QUOTE: “I’ve …
QUOTE: “I’ve already agreed it’s not a book of science.”
Then you also agree it’s not the Word. Or did you not read my response?
QUOTE: “ARE you
or ARE you NOT attacking FUNDAMENTALIST Christianity and deceitfully MISREPRESENTING all Christianity in so doing?”
I’m attacking the Bible. This is the heart of Christianity. Fundamentalist Christianity is pure Christianity. Moderate Christianity is watered down by modernity, science and imagination.
QUOTE: “I have …
QUOTE: “I have already addressed that”. Would you draw my attention to precisely where “that” was addressed? Other wise, I’ll have no rational option than to conclude I’m not engaged in an argument but instead a fight wherein it was never your intent to arrive at a reasonable conclusion by means of the exchange of ideas. You skirt the issue.
Answer me- please: ARE you
or ARE you NOT attacking FUNDAMENTALIST Christianity and deceitfully MISREPRESENTING all Christianity in so doing?
And if Yahweh was …
And if Yahweh was on their side, why did they get so many things wrong? If a god actually supported them shouldn’t they have knowledge that they could not have gained?
Or they did not …
Or they did not exist for century’s. There mythology’s was stolen from other older cultures and they just tacked monotheism onto them. Or they didn’t tack monotheism onto it as if you actually read the old testament you’d find that is in fact polytheistic mythology’s, monotheism could have came about late on the scene.
Btw, I have 7 …
Btw, I have 7 children, a job that consumes about 80 hours a week and I’m not a half-baked Christian apologist. I’m not even 1/8th baked–I have no credentials and a secondary school diploma (barely). I have to go to bed. My lack of response to anything you write is an answer to natures call, not retreat. It is the duty of Christians to defend the Faith. I’ve done that tonight and it’s enough for the time being.
I wish you well. Good night.
QUOTE: “you presume …
QUOTE: “you presume, rashly, that Christianity is expressed solely through fundamentalist principles”
I have already addressed that. There is no other coherent position aside from (1) the Bible IS the Word and (2) the Bible is NOT the Word.
Quote: ” The Word …
Quote: ” The Word of God WOULD be a book of science, rationality, morality and spirituality. The Bible is none of the above.”
I’ve already agreed it’s not a book of science. You’re reading what I post, are you comprehending what I write?
When you mention and pretend to tackle the other topics listed you fail to address my primary contention: That being–you presume, rashly, that Christianity is expressed solely through fundamentalist principles. Can you not address that first, without “horns?
QUOTE: “The Bible …
QUOTE: “The Bible is the Word of God and is not a book of science or geography or many other things you impose.”
The Word of God WOULD be a book of science, rationality, morality and spirituality. The Bible is none of the above.
QUOTE: “A half-baked Christian apologist would pulverize your arguments in an open forum”
All are welcome to post on the forum on the site I’ve linked to. Response videos are also welcome. Any challenges on any other forum I will not shy away from.
Did I suggest a ” …
Did I suggest a “sorda kinda” option?
There’s another option. The Bible is the Word of God and is not a book of science or geography or many other things you impose. It was intended to be read by Christians. I presume you’re a Theist. Go ahead and read the bible and come to all manner of false conclusions. That is, after all, what you desire.
A half-baked Christian apologist would pulverize your arguments in an open forum
“Skeptic Seminary”? May I suggest rather: Skeptic Kindergarten.
There are two …
There are two options:
1. The Bible IS the Word of God.
2. The Bible IS NOT the Word of God.
There is no “sorta kinda” option.
You’re not undoing …
You’re not undoing Christianity. You’re attacking the principles of fundamentalist Christianity who insist on literal interpretation of all scripture-which is ridiculous. The R. C. Church can accept the possibility that Evolution is true and it changes nothing about their theology or dogma. Fund. Chr. has existed for about 120 years and received infamous repute at the Scopes Monkey Trial. You pretend to attack Christianity but instead attack something that has little history and no credibility.
The ancient Jews …
The ancient Jews were lousy astronomers too, They used a lunar based calender. They avoided travel on the Great Sea, unlike her neighbours and for this reason they were no catographers and had little idea of the larger world. They had no aspiration to great architecture either. In fact, their culture was relatively dry, their population always insignificant.
How then do you account for their presence on the world stage for centuries? I reason Gods covenant, His Law, the Prophets and Christ.
I just needed to …
I just needed to hear the verse once to know for a fact that they did believe it was flat, because it merely states that the earth atmosphere spread as a tent, hence a circle upon a flat surface.
We were a big …
We were a big Jewish Snow Globe!
This is true …
This is true ancient Sumerians had drawings that show the planets and earth as round based on the observation of the moon and sun , they are both round so i guess we are too , not hard to understand that, even back then.
I thought you just …
I thought you just took information/inspiration from godvsthebible. kudos for the website.
The idea that the …
The idea that the people in the 1st century and before all thought the earth was flat is wrong. People have known the earth is a sphere since before the bible was written. The ancient Egyptians even had an estimation of the size of the earth that was pretty accurate. The fact that the bible gets it o wrong shows how ignorant the writers of the bible were even for that time.
kushy job, lol, …
kushy job, lol, that was good, i love your dry sense of humor, much love and respect. thanks for being a great resourse for the youtube freethinkers.
*The name of a …
*The name of a country*, I do remember seeing the outline of the land.
I noticed that …
I noticed that there was a country missing from the map of the four corners. Hint: It’s the country that is surrounded by all of the other lands that where described.
“Cushy job”
Har …
“Cushy job”
Har har har